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Post by 911pix on Jan 22, 2007 16:50:36 GMT -5
I was wondering if anyone out there knows someone who is knowledgeable about the years during which the racing tournaments in NY State were administered by FASNY (Pre-NYSDTCA)...not so much the dates themselves this occurred, but more having to do with the specific circumstances under which FASNY started organizing the drills, as well as the circumstances under which the NYSDTCA took over. I've tried calling FASNY in Albany to see if they have any kind of archives or historical records (they don't, not there anyway) and even the museum in Hudson, where I spoke with the Administrator there, Jamie Smith, who has told me on more than one occasion that they have (quite surprisingly) nothing at all there in the museum - other than a B truck and a C truck - that relates at all to racing teams and/or tournaments. The FASNY rep I spoke to in Albany says there's a library as well at the museum in Hudson that might have some FASNY history...but I'm not willing to bank on that, so if anyone knows anyone, I'd be grateful!
Thanks,
Mike
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Post by redmanracer on Jan 23, 2007 7:29:18 GMT -5
I can't give you much information on how and what FASNY did to organize and or run Drills, but I can give you some information on how our association was formed. Starting back in the 30's & 40's Point Pleasant and Sea Breeze who were the first teams from Western NY to run started to make the trek to Long Island on a regular basis to compete. As the then Monroe County Drill Team Captains(there were no Buffalo teams yet) association started to get more teams and more of those teams started to go to State or Long Island Drills there became a need to form one association so all teams throughout the state could run with the same book. As Western was formed and Northern and back then even the Central NY teams started to run more often we needed a state wide rule book so that we truly could have a state drill where all teams ran with the same rules and were officiated by the same rules. Bob McGrail from Point Pleasant and Jack Schoepfel from Sea Breeze started to travel throughout the state drills and push the idea of our own association. They started to hold annual meetings in the Albany area to make it easy for all to attend. All the original paper work to form the current association was filed in Monroe County and Bob McGrail was elected the Associations first President. I hope this helps answer some of your question.
Mark Champion Sea Breeze/Hicksville/Point Pleasant
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Post by fireman on Jan 23, 2007 8:11:23 GMT -5
BERNARD BOULIO FROM WEST CARTHAGE HAS QUITE A HISTORY AS BEINGA PAST PRESIDENT OF FASNY AND TEAM MEMBER FROM WEST CARTHAGE, HE WAS PROBABLY INVOLVED WHEN THESE EVENTS TOOK PLACE. I DO KNOW HE HAD OLD RULE BOOKS AS WELL AS OTHER MEMORIBILIA FROM THE PAST. ALL OF THE ORIGINAL ORGANIZERS FROM THE NORTHERN AREA ARE NOW GONE EXCEPT RICHARD GAEBEL WHO IS CURRENTLY IN A NURSING HOME IN LOWVILLE. HOPE THIS HELPS.
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Post by 911pix on Jan 23, 2007 9:09:25 GMT -5
Mark,
>All the original paper work to form the current association was >filed in Monroe County and Bob McGrail was elected the >Associations first President.
Would this paperwork still be on record in a Monroe County office somewhere? If so, it would have some necessary dates -
Thanks,
Mike
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Post by hose1cook on Jan 29, 2007 20:21:31 GMT -5
I have been to the Kingston (NY) FD museum a few times and saw a bunch of FASNY yearbooks and such going back to about 1900 I think. There was also a lot of newspapers from way back with a lot of Parade and Drill info in them, might be worth your time to go up there and see what they have (look upstairs) . About 6-7 years ago Rick White (who some of you may know) and I toyed around with the History Book idea you have now, we just never got it off the ground, but Rick did leave a photo album at Firemans Museum of drill photo's he had taken. Good Luck with your project, I look foward to the completed product.
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