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Post by 911pix on Jul 16, 2007 14:05:10 GMT -5
Cast your votes! (NOTE: you may vote for more than one)
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Post by Horse-piss on Jul 16, 2007 15:58:39 GMT -5
All of these members belong in the " hall of fame. " Its nice that 2000 other guys are not mentioned in this poll. You can not just list 17 guys who have raced .......What about the history of the Old Schoolers ? I think they require respect for nominations......Jack Cloudman Sr, Joe Joe Simone Pat Cooke, Bob Marra, Mike Welton, Ralph Nicholes Sr, Ralph Nicholes Jr,Donald Bray, Willie McCarthy, A - Rock , Kevin Conell, And the list goes on & on......You really can't put up a list without some kind of reaction............Yes , absolutley , ther should be a " Hall of Fame, " but you cant put up a poll like that. There are far too many gentleman that deserve the honor for their services..,...........
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Post by 911pix on Jul 16, 2007 16:29:41 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly, but I admit I have an ulterior motive: for my book, I'd like to - somehow - single out only a few of the most influential past members of the sport, so that I may mention them in the book. It may be difficult to do this, but to try to include every name of every person over the 150+ years the sport has been around would be impractical for my purposes - indeed, it could be a whole other book. So, if only for simplicity's sake, I'm trying to get a sense of who the biggest of the big are.
Thanks,
Mike
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Post by west on Jul 16, 2007 16:57:15 GMT -5
Relative to being influential, what if you think of it in terms of folks who have been a catalyst for specific changes; for example Kevin Connell and track safety (Watertown); Wilbur Young and evolution of faster rigs (and Bill Bryson in this category probably); other milestone type changes. Agreed, if the list is those who were good, or faster, or gave to the sport more than others - it's a big list! But who are the ones that did something different that others followed and built on? Just a thought on how to approach this.
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Post by 911pix on Jul 16, 2007 20:24:10 GMT -5
You make a good point; it's my error if I wasn't clear about what I was trying to achieve with the poll. But, this is why I'm opening the question up to the teams, to help me/us get a feel for who the legends of the sport are - and why. To that end, I'd welcome new or additional name submissions of those who, like you say, "did something different that others followed and built on"...and what it is that they did to change or improve the sport.
I apologize again for the confusion...it's been a pretty steep learning curve during the last 6 months!
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Post by ibreakformatthew on Jul 17, 2007 0:05:24 GMT -5
Saw this thread and thought I would respond by saying I totally agree with West. I have only been racing 14 years but I believe mentioning people who revolutionized the sport. As west said, who did things differently and well, where racing guys today say, "Thats how he did it", and then build on that. You should possibly compile a list in regards to seperate areas of racing. Maybe go by certain decades, and with that utilize categories in which to go on. Like west said, safety/ events wise(fastest and consistent)/ drivers/ etc.. Just a thought..
Billy hornets
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Post by oldbastard on Jul 17, 2007 0:34:50 GMT -5
The list is a good one but there are a lot of folks who have raced, done some pretty good stuff, and did it because they loved the sport. Quite a few have passed away and some are still around. They raced until their sneakers blew apart or had younger guys come up and take their place. Take a look at the team coaches and the officials. Although not all are "Hall of Fame" material, many are legends of the sport.
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Post by cbiscuit on Jul 17, 2007 18:14:26 GMT -5
Cast your votes! (NOTE: you may vote for more than one) how can you vote for more than 1? after i put Shawn in, the poll went away...
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Post by sideliner on Jul 20, 2007 15:23:22 GMT -5
Pauly Jordan was one of the most consistent and exciting climbers in the sports history he was a great tournament day climber during his time with Merrick and especially West Hempstead where he was i believe 2 hundreths off breaking the C-Ladder record in the early 90s i believe he ran a 9.03 when the record was 9.01??someone else might be able to back up the numbers im not positive and more importantly was a great person...RIP Pauly
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Post by driver7789 on Sept 27, 2007 15:06:15 GMT -5
it wasn't kevin connell who started the push for track safety. it was me(ken Van Essendelft) I was the driver for west sayville who stopped the drill in watertowm because the track was unsafe.
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Post by JUSMIK on Sept 27, 2007 15:41:07 GMT -5
The entire FD racing force belongs in the hall of fame any one willing to do what we do is out of their mind where else in the world do they do anything like this..
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Post by Dan Laverty on Oct 1, 2007 9:25:38 GMT -5
it wasn't kevin connell who started the push for track safety. it was me(ken Van Essendelft) I was the driver for west sayville who stopped the drill in watertowm because the track was unsafe. Is this the reason you stopped driving? Would you also please be so kind and tell the story of what happened on that day in 1989?
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Post by 911pix on Oct 1, 2007 9:33:05 GMT -5
Yes - please do!
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Post by JUSMIK on Oct 1, 2007 9:40:05 GMT -5
I remember that drill , snow fence right on the track protecting the the spectators . spectators less then two three feet from the track and the 1 inch of dust down the track.Thats just part of it. there is a picture of deerfield running ladders that shows what shitty track it was in FD racing memories 1989.
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Post by Dan Laverty on Oct 1, 2007 11:44:39 GMT -5
Dees dee peec?
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