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Post by twan on Sept 9, 2012 13:44:01 GMT -5
Wait, Shawn didn't run one in 1986. It was 1984, which would make him 19.
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Post by dt "ace21" on Sept 9, 2012 16:58:54 GMT -5
From Records History on DT Website: 4.97 Lindenhurst @ Central Islip 7/28/86 4.96 LINDENHURST @ CENTRAL ISLIP 7/30/88
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Post by twan on Sept 9, 2012 18:45:04 GMT -5
Something is wrong. 7/28/86 was a Monday. 7/28/84 was a Saturday.
If you read through the early posts in this thread, I mentioned that I found the scorecard from a folder labeled 1984. I don't have access to these scorecards anymore because I returned them back to the county's possession. (sue Lund).
Does anyone have an authentic copy of either the 84 or 86 CI invite? Let's see if we can verify this one. Or better yet, who can contact Shawn?
And another thing... The website (nysdrillteams under "current and retired records") says that Lindenhurst broke the B-Ladder record with a 5.04 at the 1986 Patchogue Invite. But, if you check the scorecard on fdarchive, it says that 4.97 was already the state record heading into that day. It also says that Lindenhurst ran a 5.67 that day. Who is in charge of the current and retired records on nysdrillteams?? I don't ever remember seeing Lindenhurst holding the record with a 5.04. Was that just recently edited? I notice that it's typed in a different font. Now, I realize this was before my time, but there's definitely an error somewhere along the line that needs to be fixed.
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Post by giants hat on Sept 9, 2012 20:35:41 GMT -5
I have a blank scorecard from the 1986 Patchogue Invite (6/28/86) which shows the record as 4.97. This would lead me to believe the record was set in 84. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rquqqeUzHXQ
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Post by LUNCHBOX on Sept 9, 2012 21:57:31 GMT -5
The first 4 was run in 1984. I have the 1984 CI invite on DVD. Shawn ran it that day.
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Post by dt "ace21" on Sept 10, 2012 6:37:40 GMT -5
5.04 is possibly from Patchogue in 1984, if you are sure the 4.97 is 1984. Pretty sure we broke the record twice in one year, and I am definite about the 5.04. We need more info from the 80's overall!
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Post by oscargamble on Sept 10, 2012 8:03:23 GMT -5
B-Ladder History
Patchogue 5.05 (6/26/82) Patchogue Invite—via Newsday and scorecard Lindenhurst 5.04 (7/14/1984) Patchogue Suffolk County---via scorecard Lindenhurst 4.97 (7/28/1984) Central Islip Invite---via scorecard Lindenhurst 4.96 (7/30/1988) Central Islip Invite---via scorecard
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Post by Historian on Sept 10, 2012 8:23:08 GMT -5
Oscar Gamble........ Best Afro haircut in the history of the MLB.
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Post by dt "ace21" on Sept 10, 2012 10:46:58 GMT -5
Patchogue Drill was always the 4th Saturday in June. Unless they held the County in 84. Tourny schedule posted by "giants hat" in the Old Scorecard thread in the Memories section shows they hosted the County in 83. Maybe they hosted 2 years in a row? Not sure- County used to bounce around.
Either way- Shawn was born Nov 1964- He was 19 when he ran the first 4, 23 when he ran his 2nd. If any one wants to talk to him, I have his #. Ace
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Post by oscargamble on Sept 10, 2012 11:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by twan on Sept 10, 2012 16:18:10 GMT -5
Great stuff by all. So, someone in charge of the NYS website needs to fix the history of b ladder records to reflect what's written here. And yes, ace, the 80's scorecards need to be put on the archive site. I know they're out there...
Finally. To run a 4.97 at 19 years old is something that is noteworthy. I can't believe this has never been mentioned before. (to our generation at least). I wonder if we'll ever see a teenager accomplish this again.
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Post by dt "ace21" on Sept 10, 2012 17:41:47 GMT -5
As My 1987 Captain Howard Rutherig always says- You have to give props to the Driver, Diggers and Thrower also- Team event. but we also should consider what is the actual climb time. Trucks speeds and braking have come along way in the last 20 years. Enough to make a big difference ( We were never accused of having the fastest or best braking C-rig- trust me). Even with that said, all ladders are not equal when you consider the difft angles that the scalers have had to climb and still be in the fours. Too many dfferentials to claim any one run better than another in my eyes-all great-Just my opinion. Then again I'm a Hose man. Give me Phil Vogt on nozzle, a donut roll and Weckerle Driving and we're good to go! LOL
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Post by Cat72 on Sept 10, 2012 22:43:00 GMT -5
Nothing better then 3 man c-hose!
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Post by twan on Aug 13, 2016 14:06:28 GMT -5
Congrats to Kyle Lewis and the Port Washington Road Runners for running a 4.99 in B-Ladder today at the North Bellmore Invite. The first post of this thread has been updated to reflect the "new" 4-Club.
Some stats about today's run:
Port Washington becomes the 11th team to join the 4-Club. Kyle Lewis becomes the 12th climber to join the 4-Club. The last member to join the club was Billy Moon back in 2003, so it's been 13 years since we've had a new entrant. Kyle and Port Washington become only the 3rd team in racing history to run a 4 at the Merrick Track. The other two: A-Rock with NLPK in 1993 and M. Marra with WSFD in 2001. Not only have only three teams run a 4 at this track, but today's 4 is only the 3rd one ever to be run there. Track Record: 4.98 Marra. A-Rock and K. Lewis tie with 4.99 as second fastest. Today's 4 is the first in the sport since 2012 Islip Town (Marra/WSFD.) The last time a 4 was run by anyone other than Marra/WSFD was John Short/Spencerport 2006 at Point Pleasant Invite.
Congrats to Kyle Lewis, and the PWRR. Feel free to post with the names of each member who was on that shot today.
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Post by driver7789 on Aug 13, 2016 17:28:25 GMT -5
May the record reflect....I stand corrected....many times. Billy was the thrower on the first 4, not the climber. I think this also gives Shawn the first two 4's. What was Billy Kienle's best B-Ladder time at climbing? He was a good one. I believe Billy's best time was 5.11 breaking Warren's record of 5.18 at the T.O.B. At lindenhurst.
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