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Post by 911pix on Nov 17, 2008 9:26:31 GMT -5
Wow, that's quite a difference from 1980....anyone else want to weigh-in?
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Post by drills4thewin on Nov 17, 2008 12:26:06 GMT -5
Western Drill Teams last regularly attended a Western Convention in 1999. At that drill we competed Old Fashioned because of concerns about the course. The problem, like other areas, was that the Western Convention was held in various towns that did not have a safe place to compete. We did go back one year since 1999 to compete in Albion. I want to say it was in 2003, because they have a course, but since then Western Team Capts, and Western Fire Assoc. have severed basically all ties..... Thanks FMan, I couldn't remember what year exactly, and I asked another member and 2003 was the year in Albion and I think 1994 was the start of the 4 area rotation
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Post by F-Man on Nov 17, 2008 15:07:34 GMT -5
OK.....
Now that I did my homework.....
1989 (State Invitational) was the last state drill that was held in conjunction w/ a State Convention
1997 @ Hempstead was the first year the rotation began...
So 1994 is correct as to when we voted on it!
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Post by 911pix on Nov 17, 2008 15:57:14 GMT -5
Thank You F-Man! So - what happened between 1989 and 1997? Did the DTCA hold their drills "wherever" someone offered to host them?
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Post by snails13 on Nov 17, 2008 16:03:44 GMT -5
In 1994 a vote from the floor at the Main Transit State Meeting, decided we go to Deerfield in 1996, not to Hagerman. The next year the rotation began. Mark J.
(Dates corrected)
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Post by 911pix on Nov 17, 2008 17:54:55 GMT -5
So if I'm following correctly:
- The vote was in either '94 (F-Man) or '95 (snails13) - The rotation then began in either '96 (snails13) or '97 (F-Man)
...still curious what the DTCA did from '89 until then...
Thanks for the feedback guys, keep it comin' -
Mike
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Post by Mean Willy on Nov 17, 2008 18:40:24 GMT -5
The FASNY convention and the State Tournament were held together to at least 1982, don't know after that.
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Post by ldrclmbr8x on Nov 17, 2008 20:11:38 GMT -5
I believe the rotation began in '97 with Nassau the first host (Hempstead), followed by Northern in '98 (Clayton), Suffolk in '99 (Central Islip), and Western in '00 (Main Transit).
The rotation is Nassau, Northern, Suffolk, Western.
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Post by 911pix on Nov 17, 2008 21:11:37 GMT -5
OK, after some research, I think I've answered at least part of the question, having to do with the rotation:
YEAR STATE DRILL LOCATION AREA
1990 Main-Transit Western 1991 Hagerman Suffolk 1992 Main-Transit Western 1993 Hempstead Nassau 1994 Main-Transit Western 1995 Clayton Northern 1996 Deerfield Northern 1997 Hempstead Nassau 1998 Clayton Northern 1999 Central Islip Suffolk 2000 Main-Transit Western 2001 Merrick Nassau 2002 Deerfield Northern 2003 Ridge Suffolk 2004 Main-Transit Western 2005 Hempstead Nassau 2006 Hempstead (for Deerfield - Northern) 2007 Selden Suffolk 2008 Main-Transit Western
...so it seems that the pattern of Rotation actually started in 1998, at the Clayton drill, if you want to use the rotation of Northern-Suffolk-Western-Nassau. "Historian" told me it when it was designed/created it was meant to be set up as having the Suffolk drill first, which would make CI be the first in '99, but that would mean that the Northern drill at Clayton the year before was just a coincidence...can anyone elaborate on this?
I've been unable (yet) to find out/verify the FASNY convention locations up through that period, but when I do I'll be able to definitely see when the State Drill split off.
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Post by 911pix on Nov 17, 2008 21:14:07 GMT -5
Figures, ldrclmbr6x makes a total jackass out of me by posting the obvious right ahead of me...hats off to you, of COURSE I see the pattern now!
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Post by snails13 on Nov 17, 2008 23:29:12 GMT -5
In 1993, at an Executive Board Meeting held in Baldwin, they voted to go to Clayton in 95, and then in 1994 the Floor voted to go to Deerfield in 1996, and the rotation resumed in 1997.
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Post by Historian on Nov 18, 2008 8:21:50 GMT -5
The Executive Board can recommend, at a Host's request, that the rotation be changed to consider a special event, such as a Department's Anniversary, etc.
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Post by snails13 on Nov 18, 2008 10:28:26 GMT -5
no!, the excutive board voted Clayton in 93 the meeting was in Baldwin ,Bob B. was still president till oct. meeting in Albany.the recommend to change at hosts request came around 06. it was a by-law change.
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Post by Historian on Nov 18, 2008 15:01:15 GMT -5
So noted and corrected snails13! Thanks for your valuable imput for 911Pix's project.
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Post by XDoublenickel on Nov 19, 2008 0:02:16 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that the FASNY convention was held with the NYS State Drill in 1999. I know we participated in the convention which was held at the Windwatch Hotel in Hauppauge and the drill was obviously in Central Islip.
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